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The boy says: TWO AI LABS BROKE THE SAME MATH RULE

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Tuesday, Oct. 27, 2026 · Sunrise Update

OpenAI and Anthropic Both Disprove the Same Math Rule

Two AI labs say their models independently broke a decades-old computer science hypothesis this month.

Number 1, Lab post · OpenAI

Dan Roberts @danintheory

Oct. 26 · 5:36 p.m. ET

OpenAI Says Its Models Disproved a Math Hypothesis

@danintheory wroteWe are announcing three new discoveries in mathematics, computer science, and physics.
5,737 likes
Likes, Dan Roberts' post
On X
253 replies
Replies, Dan Roberts' post
On X
880 reposts
Reposts, Dan Roberts' post
On X

The takeaway

OpenAI's models produced three unverified proofs in math, computer science and physics.

Number 2, Reddit thread

r/OpenAI u/Puzzleheaded-King584

Oct. 27 · 3:30 a.m. ET

Block's Dessa Voice Model Stuns Reddit With Realism

u/Puzzleheaded-King584 postedCrazy realistic now. We're cooked.
58 comments
Comments, r/OpenAI thread
On Reddit
532 points
Points, "Dessa" thread, Hacker News
Beyond Reddit
199 comments
Comments, "Dessa" thread, Hacker News
Beyond Reddit

The takeaway

A clip of Block's Dessa voice model drew 58 comments on r/OpenAI today.

Number 3, Reddit thread

r/singularity u/likeastar20

Oct. 27 · 4:05 a.m. ET

Anthropic's Claude Also Disproved the Same Math Rule

u/likeastar20 postedInternal Claude research model also independently refuted the Exponential Time Hypothesis on October 16, with 14M output tokens and no human input.
52 comments
Comments, r/singularity thread
On Reddit
14 million tokens
Output tokens, Anthropic's Claude research run
On Reddit
357 stars
GitHub stars, anthropics/formal-math
Beyond Reddit

The takeaway

A Reddit post showed Anthropic's Claude matched OpenAI's proof ten days earlier.

Number 4, Viral on X

Andrew Curran @AndrewCurran_

Oct. 26 · 5:46 p.m. ET

AI Tracker Spreads OpenAI's Math Claims Wide

@AndrewCurran_ wroteOpenAI has announced to three new discoveries in mathematics, computer science, and physics.
2,446 likes
Likes, Andrew Curran's post
On X
111 replies
Replies, Andrew Curran's post
On X
915 points
Points, "Three new discoveries" thread, Hacker News
Beyond X

The takeaway

A popular AI account turned OpenAI's dense claims into three short lines.

Number 5, Reddit thread

r/OpenAI u/ZeroCool86

Oct. 27 · 1:10 a.m. ET

The Hypothesis's Own Authors Now Check OpenAI's Claim

u/ZeroCool86 postedOpenAI says its models refuted the Exponential Time Hypothesis, and the people who proposed it are checking
6 comments
Comments, r/OpenAI thread
On Reddit
915 points
Points, "Three new discoveries" thread, Hacker News
Beyond Reddit
443 comments
Comments, "Three new discoveries" thread, Hacker News
Beyond Reddit

The takeaway

The professors behind the old hypothesis agreed to review OpenAI's new proof.

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A text from Dad: what’s happening in ai rn? The reply: OpenAI and Anthropic Both Disprove the Same Math Rule

Six times a day: what blew up in AI on X and Reddit, why it caught fire, and what it says about the people building AI.

The boy says: TWO AI LABS BROKE THE SAME MATH RULE

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OpenAI and Anthropic Both Disprove the Same Math Rule

Two AI labs say their models independently broke a decades-old computer science hypothesis this month.

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Number 1

Lab postOpenAI

OpenAI Says Its Models Disproved a Math Hypothesis

Dan Roberts @danintheory on XPosted

Dan Roberts@danintheory

We are announcing three new discoveries in mathematics, computer science, and physics about harmonic analysis, complexity theory, and quantum field theory.https://t.co/9BX8HWQDTJ

Open on X (opens a new tab)

By the numbers

Likes, Dan Roberts' post
5,737 likes
On X
As of
Likes, Dan Roberts' post: Source: X public data
Replies, Dan Roberts' post
253 replies
On X
As of
Replies, Dan Roberts' post: Source: X public data
Reposts, Dan Roberts' post
880 reposts
On X
As of
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Points, "Three new discoveries" thread, Hacker News
915 points
Beyond X
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Points, "Three new discoveries" thread, Hacker News: Source: Hacker News
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The take

OpenAI posted big news today. Researcher Dan Roberts shared it on X. OpenAI's models cracked three hard problems at once. One sits in math. One sits in computer science. One sits in physics.

The math result touches wave behavior. Experts call it the local smoothing conjecture. The same proof also settles the Kakeya conjecture. That puzzle stood open since 1991. Human mathematicians had solved it one dimension at a time. OpenAI says its model solved every dimension together.

The computer science claim lands bigger. It says the Exponential Time Hypothesis is false. That hypothesis guessed certain hard problems always take huge time to solve. Many later proofs leaned on that guess. OpenAI built an algorithm that breaks the old guess.

The physics claim touches quantum field theory. It offers a rigorous proof tied to quantum chromodynamics. That theory explains forces deep inside atoms.

OpenAI checked its math and computer science proofs in Lean. Lean is a tool that checks logic step by step. The company posted the work in a public code library on GitHub.

Dan Roberts' post spread fast today. It pulled 5,737 likes within hours. Readers added 253 replies and 880 reposts. A Hacker News thread about the claims hit 915 points. That same thread gathered 443 comments. The GitHub library gathered 15,843 stars. Search traffic for the term jumped too. Its Wikipedia page logged 12,910 views in one day. The day before, that page logged only 37 views.

Mathematicians kept a careful tone past the hype. OpenAI handed the computer science proof to outside checkers. MIT's Ryan Williams joined that group. He agreed to review the claim for free.

The moment says something plain about the AI race today. Top labs now chase pure science, past chatbots and search tools. A system that can touch a decades-old math puzzle raises the bar for every rival lab watching.

What it says about the people in AI

OpenAI's models produced three unverified proofs in math, computer science and physics.

Sources

  1. OpenAI Working with academic communities to build scientific understanding
  2. The Next Web OpenAI says its AI model has disproved the Exponential Time Hypothesis
  3. Scientific American OpenAI unleashes hundreds more math results upon a field already in shock

Number 2

Reddit thread

Block's Dessa Voice Model Stuns Reddit With Realism

r/OpenAI u/Puzzleheaded-King584Posted

r/OpenAIu/Puzzleheaded-King584

Crazy realistic now. We're cooked.

Open on Reddit (opens a new tab)

By the numbers

Comments, r/OpenAI thread
58 comments
On Reddit
As of
Comments, r/OpenAI thread: Source: Reddit
Points, "Dessa" thread, Hacker News
532 points
Beyond Reddit
As of
Points, "Dessa" thread, Hacker News: Source: Hacker News
Comments, "Dessa" thread, Hacker News
199 comments
Beyond Reddit
As of
Comments, "Dessa" thread, Hacker News: Source: Hacker News
Wikipedia pageviews, Block, Inc., Oct. 26
811 views
Beyond Reddit
As of
Wikipedia pageviews, Block, Inc., Oct. 26: Source: Wikipedia pageviews

The take

A short clip hit Reddit today. It showed off a voice model called Dessa. Block, the payments company, built it. Block calls Dessa a full-duplex model. Full-duplex means it can listen and talk at the same time. A person barely notices any gap in the reply.

Dessa trained only on human speech. Block skipped text data during training. Most voice assistants read text first, then speak it. Dessa hears tone directly and answers in kind. It can carry a laugh. It can carry a sigh. It can carry a voice cracking with real feeling.

Block says Dessa runs on strong consumer hardware. A gaming laptop with a recent chip handles it fine. A home setup alone handles the whole job.

The clip struck a nerve on r/OpenAI today. The thread's title read plainly: "Crazy realistic now. We're cooked." Readers left 58 comments under the post. Many said the voice fooled their own ear on first listen.

The wider launch already drew huge traffic days ago. A Hacker News thread about Dessa reached 532 points. That thread pulled 199 comments of its own. Block's own page, Wikipedia, still logged 811 views yesterday, proof the story keeps pulling curious readers back.

Block built Dessa with safety researchers in mind first. The company opened a waitlist for testers who study risky uses. One worry stands out clearly: a voice this real could trick someone on a call.

The reaction says something plain about where AI stands today. A chatbot that sounds fully human felt distant just a year ago. Now a clip like this lands on a Tuesday morning and stops a scroll cold. Readers keep reacting the same way, split between delight and unease, often inside one comment. That split feeling may end up shaping how people greet every voice model that follows this one.

What it says about the people in AI

A clip of Block's Dessa voice model drew 58 comments on r/OpenAI today.

Sources

  1. TechCrunch Block's new voice model sounds eerily human
  2. Unite.AI Block Unveils Dessa, a Full-Duplex Speech Model Trained on Conversation

Number 3

Reddit thread

Anthropic's Claude Also Disproved the Same Math Rule

r/singularity u/likeastar20Posted

r/singularityu/likeastar20

Internal Claude research model also independently refuted the Exponential Time Hypothesis on October 16, with 14M output tokens and no human input.

Open on Reddit (opens a new tab)

By the numbers

Comments, r/singularity thread
52 comments
On Reddit
As of
Comments, r/singularity thread: Source: Reddit
Output tokens, Anthropic's Claude research run
14 million tokens
On Reddit
As of
Output tokens, Anthropic's Claude research run: Source: Reddit
GitHub stars, anthropics/formal-math
357 stars
Beyond Reddit
As of
GitHub stars, anthropics/formal-math: Source: GitHub
Points, "Three new discoveries" thread, Hacker News
915 points
Beyond Reddit
As of
Points, "Three new discoveries" thread, Hacker News: Source: Hacker News
1 more number behind this take

The take

A Reddit post added a twist today. OpenAI said its models disproved the Exponential Time Hypothesis. That hypothesis guessed certain hard computer problems always take huge time to solve. Hours later, a poster shared proof that Anthropic found the same answer.

An internal Claude research model reached the result first. The work finished on October 16. That date sits ten days before OpenAI's post. Anthropic logged 14 million output tokens for the run. The model worked the problem on its own. Anthropic posted the proof files on GitHub under its own account.

The timing struck readers right away. Two major labs landed on the same rare result. Each worked the problem on a separate track. The gap between them ran just ten days. One commenter joked: "I am become god." Another called the overlap "the slayer of all worlds."

Reactions split across the thread. One reader argued the overlap shows top models now sit close in raw skill. A second reader pushed back fast. That reader said Claude solved one proof while OpenAI solved three. The two kept trading replies for hours.

The post spread quickly on r/singularity today. It gathered 52 comments within hours. The GitHub page behind the claim, anthropics/formal-math, carries 357 stars. A matching Hacker News thread on OpenAI's claims sat at 915 points. The Exponential Time Hypothesis's own Wikipedia page jumped to 12,910 views in one day.

The quiet release says plenty on its own. OpenAI framed its three proofs with a big blog post. Outside reviewers lined up fast to help check the math. Anthropic just pushed code to a public folder and moved on. Readers spotted the gap fast. Many read it as a clue about how each lab runs this new contest for credit.

What it says about the people in AI

A Reddit post showed Anthropic's Claude matched OpenAI's proof ten days earlier.

Sources

  1. OpenAI Working with academic communities to build scientific understanding

Number 4

Viral on X

AI Tracker Spreads OpenAI's Math Claims Wide

Andrew Curran @AndrewCurran_ on XPosted

Andrew Curran@AndrewCurran_

OpenAI has announced to three new discoveries in mathematics, computer science, and physics:
- Local smoothing and the Kakeya conjecture
- The Exponential Time Hypothesis is false
- Existence of quantum chromodynamics and completions of the Standard Model pic.twitter.com/FIgVlNIEyY

Open on X (opens a new tab)

By the numbers

Likes, Andrew Curran's post
2,446 likes
On X
As of
Likes, Andrew Curran's post: Source: X public data
Replies, Andrew Curran's post
111 replies
On X
As of
Replies, Andrew Curran's post: Source: X public data
Points, "Three new discoveries" thread, Hacker News
915 points
Beyond X
As of
Points, "Three new discoveries" thread, Hacker News: Source: Hacker News
Comments, "Three new discoveries" thread, Hacker News
443 comments
Beyond X
As of
Comments, "Three new discoveries" thread, Hacker News: Source: Hacker News
1 more number behind this take

The take

One post carried OpenAI's big news to a wider crowd today. Andrew Curran tracks AI news on X. He summed up the whole story in three plain lines. He named the local smoothing proof. He named the Exponential Time Hypothesis claim. He named the quantum field theory result.

Curran runs a large account built around daily AI news. His posts often spread lab news past each company's own followers. Today's post worked the same way. It turned a dense research post into three short lines a busy reader could scan fast.

The post caught real traction fast. It pulled 2,446 likes within hours. It drew 111 replies from curious readers. Many replies asked the same plain question. Can outside experts check this claim.

That question sits at the center of the bigger story. A Hacker News thread on OpenAI's three claims reached 915 points. The same thread gathered 443 comments. Many came from working coders and math fans. The Exponential Time Hypothesis's own Wikipedia page jumped to 12,910 views in one day. That marks a huge jump from its usual trickle of daily visits.

Accounts like Curran's now shape how most readers meet a dense paper. Few readers open OpenAI's full technical post. Few read its Lean proof files line by line. Most readers meet the story through a short summary like this one.

That shift carries real weight for how AI news spreads today. A claim this large can reach millions of screens within hours. Outside checks still take far longer to finish. Speed wins the first round every time online. The math itself gets tested later, at a slower pace. A much smaller crowd sticks around to read that part.

What it says about the people in AI

A popular AI account turned OpenAI's dense claims into three short lines.

Sources

  1. OpenAI Working with academic communities to build scientific understanding

Number 5

Reddit thread

The Hypothesis's Own Authors Now Check OpenAI's Claim

r/OpenAI u/ZeroCool86Posted

r/OpenAIu/ZeroCool86

OpenAI says its models refuted the Exponential Time Hypothesis, and the people who proposed it are checking

Open on Reddit (opens a new tab)

By the numbers

Comments, r/OpenAI thread
6 comments
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Comments, r/OpenAI thread: Source: Reddit
Points, "Three new discoveries" thread, Hacker News
915 points
Beyond Reddit
As of
Points, "Three new discoveries" thread, Hacker News: Source: Hacker News
Comments, "Three new discoveries" thread, Hacker News
443 comments
Beyond Reddit
As of
Comments, "Three new discoveries" thread, Hacker News: Source: Hacker News
Wikipedia pageviews, Exponential time hypothesis, Oct. 26
12,910 views
Beyond Reddit
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Wikipedia pageviews, Exponential time hypothesis, Oct. 26: Source: Wikipedia pageviews

The take

A second Reddit post zoomed in on one word today. That word is checking. OpenAI said its models disproved a hard, old hypothesis. The claim guessed some computer problems always take huge time to solve. The post's title put the real news plainly. The people who wrote that old guess are now the ones checking OpenAI's new claim.

Two professors wrote the original guess years ago. Both teach at a university in San Diego. A math professor at MIT joined them to check the new proof. All three agreed to work for free. OpenAI agreed to share its raw data with the group.

The setup matters past this one claim. OpenAI wants outside experts to guide each big science post it makes. The company calls these experts shepherds. A shepherd checks the work and helps explain it to other scientists.

Readers on r/OpenAI reacted with real care today. The thread gathered six comments in its first hours online. Some readers compared the move to past claims that later needed a walk-back.

The caution fits a wider pattern this week. A Hacker News thread on OpenAI's three claims reached 915 points. The same thread gathered 443 comments. Many comments pressed on fine proof details. One science magazine covered the review in full. It said the field still waits on a final word. A Wikipedia page tied to the claim jumped to 12,910 views in one day.

The moment shows how fast AI claims now outrun their own checks. A result can reach millions of readers in hours. A fair review from real experts still takes months. Until that review lands, the claim sits in a strange spot. It counts as real news today and a real open question for later.

What it says about the people in AI

The professors behind the old hypothesis agreed to review OpenAI's new proof.

Sources

  1. Scientific American OpenAI unleashes hundreds more math results upon a field already in shock
  2. OpenAI Working with academic communities to build scientific understanding

That is AI right now.

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